You learned that your defective, obsessive, and diseased mind is bent on its own destruction: that is simply the nature of alcoholism, your newly diagnosed affliction. Ruin is inevitable.
They exploited the desires, fears and sins you revealed during “Step Work” to exact obedience and stifle doubt.
Then they sent you out into the world to proselytize for them: to convince others they are similarly defective and obsessed even if they don’t realize it, insisting that their claim to drink just because they want to is a lie, even as you deny trying to convince anyone they are alcoholic. And you do it, because it’s an essential part of the only known cure.
Now they sit back and laugh, waiting for you to self-destruct because one day you you wake up in a good mood and forget to beseech your Higher Power for protection from your own mind’s lethal obsessions and at the end of the day when you suddenly remember and reach for the phone to call your sponsor, it’s too late because the combination of vodka you picked up on the way home to commemorate a successful day (an old habit you assumed was long since broken), and a nearly full prescription of vicodin left over from a previous surgery (whose longevity you and your sponsor recently agreed was sure proof of progress even while you wondered why she didn’t demand that you flush it immediately), has already shut down the nerve signalling pathways controlling the muscles in your extremities, thereby rendering a maligned and abused but normal brain truly and hopelessly powerless, for the first time ever.
That’s the most common modus operandi of Alcoholics Anonymous, the brainwashing cult of powerlessness that doubles as a drinking club (oh you thought AA was a treatment for alcoholism? Gotcha haha!), and it happens many times every day in this country. They thirst for your blood because it makes them stronger; your expiration increments the obscene statistic that stands as this year’s testament to the fearsome power of the same affliction that now threatens the life of tonight’s featured speaker even as he stands here before us: a humble Christian, and at one time not so long ago another certain victim of the disease, were it not for his discovery of a simple but powerful program, which worked when nothing else did, and which not only rescued his poor and admittedly imperfect soul from certain death but offered it abundant life; the initiation of which requiring only a willingness to admit the power of an undeniably deadly disease; and for its maintenance his continuous vigilance lest it return. The disease withered as he advanced in the program in which he learned to exercise rigorous honesty in all his affairs; and finally the infernal malady receded, though it left behind in its wake a shameful trail of sin, which he regrets and for which he has made amends, as our program requires. He then proceeds to recount the harrowing details. We listen and much to our surprise he is laughing and we are laughing! The recovery from our condition has strengthened us and made us resilient, and we are able to find humor in the midst of the suffering and hardship it created for us and the ones we care about most. Indeed, we are not a glum lot.
You chuckle along with the group at the stories of mischief, unaware of the high cost the cult has incurred for them, or that this obligation can be satisfied only by the blood of its members. Who will die for this man’s sins? That question never occurs to you. For now you are focused on your recovery, while you relish the warm welcome of the fellowship. Their eager hugs and knowing smiles suggest a genuine appreciation of your suffering, even if the repeated demands for ‘rigorous honesty’ about past mistakes left you demoralized. They say you’re making progress.
You recommit yourself to the Steps as our speaker advised and wait your turn for the promised miracle, wondering if you really have admitted utter powerlessness to your disease as he did, and trying to remember what he even said about that.
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The Real Alcoholics of AA pour their drinks and take their seats, laughing about their new disciples. Who will be first to attain true knowledge? The bets are placed and the curtain is lifted. The demons settle in to watch an eloquent apostle of our “cunning and baffling” condition start her day in a good mood and conclude it in silent vindication. The curtain falls and the room erupts in raucous cheers: the old prank remains as young as the blood that affords it. The winner of the pool soaks in the accolades and starts to plan her merry escapade, which will only wax more lurid in its retelling. Brew sloshes and spills from a goblet raised jubilantly in its own honor.
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My advice is to get out now and don’t look back. Maybe stop by your local church on the way home and see if they have any openings for service work.
And for gosh sakes, don’t mix alcohol and drugs!
AddictionMyth gratefully acknowledges the contribution of Dr. Drew Pinsky for this article.
Read more:
- Powerlessness as Religion – Only the good die young
- The Problem of the Jews: a Lesson in Brainwashing Propaganda – How AA bamboozled a country
- The Drinking Club – Watch what they do, not what they say
- Cory Monteith: The Cult of Powerlessness Claims Another Victim – Fresh from a role as a drug addict
- AA is a Pagan Cult – You got a problem with that?
- School for Scoundrels – What you actually learn in the rooms
- The Little Psychopath Could: How the Addiction Myth creates new Drug Addicts
- Addict Science – A rising Tower of Babel
suddenly I find myself very thirsty and in need of escape
What kind of man baits people that are, or have been, down on there knees in desperation (while you troll for drunkalogs) and then just beats up on them while hiding safely in anonymity? Bullies like you are the saddest form of a Man. You are less then a neddle mark.
What kind of people abuse and exploit vulnerable newcomers, then tell them they are powerless and wait for them to die? AA members, that’s who. AA is starting to lose its stranglehold on the American psyche, and when that happens all the liars and cheats in your drinking club will have no sanctuary. Repent now!
The AA program is a program of WILLINGNESS, SELF-FINDING and a SUGGESTED manner of living. It also teaches MORALS which you seem to be missing out on. Those who relapse are those who do not really try and are unwilling to have an open mind, and they are certainly mourned not scorned. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion.
Yeah, and the Medieval Catholic Church didn’t confirm infants as they claimed the persons being confirmed were speaking for themselves.
But choose not to be confirmed, or after confirmation deviate from the Church’s rules or edicts, and you’d be subject to some pretty horrific treatment.
No body is waiting for anyone else to die in AA . In fact AA professes a way to live life on life’s terms and get off the booze and become something. What a ludicrous statement.
Sounds like you lost balance and went way off the religious end. Get a grip.
and what are you ofering??
A.A. works period !!! Nobody needs to defend it!!!
They why are you posting here?
It may work for a few at the expense of no longer thinking for themselves and cutting themselves off from real genuine nice normal people without some sick agenda through manipulation and sucking the potential life from a person who just needs a little help with addiction issues. AA is the worst possible way to go, much more damaging than good.
Yes what kind of AA you you been at?never heard or seen such a thing. For less than 10% of my income I am offered a way to live spiritually, happy and free of drama, which is just another word for bad behavior.
LOL!!! Ya right. It’s your way or no way. AA or jails, institutions or death period. Very dumb and narrow minded, trying to get vulnerable people to buy into your garbage. no one I ever met in AA seems to have a mind of their own. Their brains get stolen and warped by the the cult members’ mentality. No originality in that twisted robotic crew. Many members can no longer function in mainstream society. Weirdos
Wierdo. I’m sorrycaa/an pissed in your Wheaties
That’s why I sought AA. Now you are starting to understand what the doctors have said is a disease. When a person gets to this point. You nailed it
But getting high all day or drunk all day you’ll still except me into mainstream society? Good because your the first one I’m robbing and fucking off if I ever decide to get loaded again
Yes
All of this sounds confusing and i do know this God’s not the author of confusion. So it seams all the back and forth seams ego driven. You know Edging God Out AA has helped millions of people over come a hopeless helpless state of mind and body also a spiritual malady. That’s no accident I’ve seen non believers come to believe go to church some just pray etc. My point is they have a relationship today let them have it. I mean it is a personal one i love all of you on this page
Fascinating how much energy it took to come up with this nonsense. Millions of alcoholics and problem drinkers have found a solution for their problem over the last 79 years. There is no dues or fees to be paid. No obligations to be met. You can join or not join the choice is yours. There is no claim to be the only way to recover, most have tried a variety of different ways, and if they worked then we won’t see them in AA. And that’s ok, in the end it’s the well being of the individual that’s most important.
I can’t help but wonder why the writer of the article is so determined to tear AA down. We don’t promote AA, we don’t push abstinence for anyone, we don’t require dues OE fees, you’re a member if you say you are. We have no affiliation with any organizations, instutions, nor do we belong to sect or denomination and don’t endorse or oppose any causes. I guess the reader will have to judge for themselves who has the agenda. If this program works for the alcoholic then that’s good and if it doesn’t then I guess the writer of this article will be happy if some poor soul died and proved his point. He can point to them and say, “See, it didn’t work for that one. I was right!” And continue to ignore the ones that it did work for.
AA/NA may not have set dues, neither does the Catholic Church (which doesn’t seem be to be hurting for money and has huge collections of art, real estate, elaborate buildings, etc). There are nearly 100 people in NYC alone who earn a full time living from the publishing/reprinting of AA’s Big Book.
But the thing is, AA/NA/allAs’ membership rates are declining, and you know where people go now for “addiction treatment”? Rehab centers that not only cost money to go to, but also, thanks to mental health parity rules in the ACA, have to be paid for by medical insurance.
and most treatment canters still follow a 12 step program as suggested by the AA PROGRAM…HMMM
I get so tired of people with addication talk aganist aa/na ca. they are still battling the disease but talk about the 12 step programs. Because they don;t won;t to get sober. They protect their drugs with all their might. People wake up
I don’t have an addiction. I lead a happy, law-abiding, productive life.
I don’t think you have an addiction, either, Anonymous.
I think people who say they have an “addiction” don’t have a disease, they have an excuse to use to get their family, employers & parole officers to give them another chance after demonstrably bad behavior.
yep Im agree,
maybe the writter can’t make it 🙂
I am an addict I have an addiction I am in recovery therefore the desieze I did not ask to have (just like the cancer) is in remission. And hopefully by using the tools I’ve been given(12 steps) I will not have to battle it again, just like using the chemo and radiation I was given my cancer will not come back again
Way to tell em K
AA makes no claims, makes no demands nor requests-ever!!! We are just everyday people afflicted with a problem that we cannot shake by ourselves. We share our experience strength and hope with each other and support one another through identifying with each other aiding in the overcoming of our sense of aloneness and isolation.
People can have as much of AA as they want or as little. We are not affiliated with any specific faith or belief. Here athiests, agnostics, christians, taoist, buddists, native americans and anyone from any country or belief is welcomed and treated with courtesty, kindness, respect and love.
I fear your lashing out at AA or any other Group is a result of your trying to feel better about yourself at someone elses expense and maybe a way to drum up more business for yourself. Either way, it is clear to me that you have alot of past bitterness and hostilities towards this Fellowship and perhaps God and all of this is stemmed from your own personal experience.
In the end,, even if this was a Cult and I were brainwashed, it is far better than the life I had previously….Thankyou God and AA.
Bill M
Coosbay, Oregon
Addiction myth….you sound like Satan!
You people shouldn’t say things like that because coming from you I’ll take it as a compliment!
Addiction Myth ,…news flash,…you are a pompous little prick who has never felt poison runnng through his veins. You are a train wreak of resentment,…just a grown up child looking for attention,….if a bunch of mis fits who gather together to find their way home while sharing kindness makes you so angery,…maybe you should look at your addiction to proving there is no such thing a addiction. Your hatred is your Karma…I love you ,……and toast to you today with another shot Jack,,, you are Karma on the hoof.,….it is fun to wacth you run.
Wow, what a well- reasoned, well-documented and cogent argument in support of your position.
Nothing like personal attacks on an author to demonstrate the fact that the writer has absolutely no evidence or logic to use to support their opinion.
When they launch into a personal attack they are just talking about themselves. For example, he says “it is fun to wacth you run”. Indeed, it is fun to watch them run. Karma is catching up – and it’s a bitch! 🙂
Bourbon on Bourbon Street
Does anyone know a good cold and sinus remedy?
I prefer ABC meetings myself
don’t forget to pick up your scarlet letter AA pin on the way out the door
you are powerless without our cult’s help to control you- praise Jebus
AA is bullshit… without a doubt
this is fucked up
I agree. AA almost killed me….thanks for the post.
Get your programs correct. The girl who ditched you was an Alanon.
Thanks for all your posts. It is a good thing to question. No matter what kind of group you join, never just have blind faith. People are just people and all are fallible. I do believe, however, we should respect others’ opinions, even if they are different from our own. A lot can be learned through different points-of-view. I must admit I am leery of AA because my own mother was an alcoholic. Some a AA people mistakenly thought she should go off her medications as well as stop drinking. Although they had good intentions, their advice caused my mother to stop her medication abruptly and she became very depressed and commit suicide. My own personal experience has proven most people are helpful in AA, but I don’t take everything to heart. The principles are generally good. Ultimately one has to trust oneself, and be aware of how influential people can be.
Illuminati I’m comin for Yu bitches
So sorry for your loss.
It’s wise to remember that not only individuals, but groups, are fallible, and even if people have good intentions and hopes, bad advice can have damaging consequences.
I wish you the best for the coming year.
When I first attended a meeting I was told by one guy the same thing I explained that I had been sober almost 1 yr without meds and had put a loaded gun in my mouth and fired . The gun malfunctioned so I went and got loaded because I truely wanted to die. I also pointed out the paragraph that states some must seek outside help as well and that if it dr given and used properly it was not only helping to save my life but most likely his as well. No one ever said anything about my doctor given used correctly crazy bitch pills again.
i am so glad i read all the good things about AA . GOD has spoken through all you people
AA truly works only if u work it. If sucks if u dont. My life is a miracle. Almost 4 years later . I love myself. King Alcohol tried to ruin my life . If u say im brainwashed. Im ok with it . My brain needed washing 4 years ago. I am 4ever greatful 2 AA
No, you were an idolater of King Alcohol and you have decades of mischief to show for it. Then he betrayed you and started to favor a younger crowd. So the 12 Step cults exorcised him from your soul and replaced him with their true Higher power. Now you teach the younger crowd that they too can enjoy decades of powerlessness to King Alcohol like you did, if they are not first destroyed by him.
If you have to do all the work, why should AA get the credit, and not the person actually doing the work – you?
Your reply reflects the experience of hundreds of people who are living the promises today. Like me. It truly is a miracle. I needed not only my brain ‘washed’ but my body and spirit as well. If AA saves 1 life, as it has mine, it is worthy of praise. AA is not only about not drinking…it is about living a fulfilled life. Practicing it’s principals in all one’s affairs creates a better life and a better world. The evidence before me has proven this. Lives and families restored! My sympathy goes out to anyone who has lost a loved one who happened to be in AA at some point. It is a tragedy they were unable to replace the baffling power of alcoholic thinking with the principals laid out in this simple program. While it is simple, it is not easy. The best outcome results from vigilant adherence and not complicating AA suggestions. And it should be said, AA itself does not suggest going against the advice of a qualified, licensed physician. In fact, the history of AA documents examples of consulting with the medical community.
AA doesn’t put down other organizations that help people, why do you feel the need to do so, I think anyone seeking help should find what feels right for them. There is no wrong way to recover, except with negativity and the need to prosecute others for not believing in your exact way. Not one way works for everyone. Addicts of all kind just need a safe place to go to heal.
I’m just offering another option, and many people agree except for a few AA zealots. Why put down something that works for so many? I think you need to go back to your meetings and not worry so much about what other people think. Probably what got you in trouble in the first place.
Yeah I feel the same way. This guy is full of shit. I only wonder if he ever was an alcoholic. The (program) has tools, free tools mind you, and everything in the program is a suggestion, no one has to do anything, they do it of there own acord. People that come to the program come to believe in a power of there own understanding, not someone else’s. This guy has no idea.
You are correct…this guy has no idea. In 17 years I have seen the program of AA turn countless lives around, and watched several who were unable to do what was SUGGESTED and find a Higher Power of their own understanding, die. When I see all of the folks that the program of AA has helped, I wonder where these AA bashers come from…
To treat most diseases – in fact all real physical diseases – the medical treatment cures or improves symptoms whether the patient believes in a higher power or not. Yet in the case of “alcoholism”/”addiction” we have a “disease” that can only be seen in Behavior (there’s no bacteria, virus, prion, hormone excess or deficiency, organ malfunction or malformation, no genetic variation that can distinguish “addicts” from humans who just just a drug/alcohol) and can only be “treated” with a very particular version of religion?
Sooo.. you understand the 12 step program? And you mention a particular religion? I am far from religious and actually never cracked a bible open in my life. I have amazing success in my life from AA. So from that I see your post is once again a common issue with the addiction myth people, a case of “contempt prior to investigation”. I suggest that you understand that in which you show so much disdain.
Its real simple. If you don’t think it works, keep drinking! You’re not ready for it yet! It will be there for you when or if you need it.
And yes, read between the lines.
Awesome
Drinking club
We do not believe that drug and alcohol dependency is a disease. Instead, we believe it is the result of one or more of the following four causes:
Chemical imbalance
Unresolved events from the past
Beliefs you hold that are inconsistent with what is true
Inability to cope with current conditions
You deserve something different. Something better. Something that works. Call now (866) 504-1430.
At Passages – Addiction Ends Here™
‘Prentiss immediately tells me the I Ching is “the greatest book ever written,” that “it tells the future with 100 percent accuracy.” He tells me he has written more books on the I Ching than any writer in the world.’
http://www.laweekly.com/2008-06-26/news/buying-the-cure/?showFullText=true
Passages Malibu Ive been wanting to address you for years, Im glad you posted! Your ideals rob money from desperate families and kill people! How many indigent patients do you treat per year? My guess is ZERO.
CROCK OF B.S.!!
Nothin compared to AA’s death rate.
Well said
While AA/NA is a set up that uses faith healing techniques to “treat” a lifelong, incurable, relapsing “disease” (which can’t be demonstrated via infection, organ malformation or malfunction, hormone excess or deficiency, traumatic injury) – and the claim to treat a fake disease makes it impossible to demonstrate that the treatment doesn’t work, Passages Malibu says they don’t treat a disease – but they still take as a given that “drug and alcohol dependency” is a thing that some humans have (and others don’t? It’s unclear)
Passages Malibu’s list of “causes” for alcohol and drug dependency is interesting, but let’s ask
1. What chemicals are “imbalanced”? What published, peer review research demonstrates the connection between which chemicals and which symptoms? If it’s a chemical imbalance, then wouldn’t the “treatment” be to correct the chemical levels? When, say, thyroid hormones are out of range, administering either supplemental hormones or hormone suppressors or surgery to remove nodules producing excess hormones (depending on whether it’s too little or too much) is enough – thyroid patients don’t need to publicly air their bad behavior or recruit new thyroid patients.
2. What makes an event from the past “unresolved”? Or is it the person’s feelings about certain past events are unhappy feelings, or that the person dwells on unhappy situations in the past? Considering recent research on memory, demonstrating memories are malleable and influenced by subsequent events and learning, and that a person’s mood in the present influences which memories are easier for the person to recall in that moment (a happy person more easily recalls happy events), what memories a person calls up is a variable thing, and how the person looks at the memory is variable. Encouraging people to bring up unhappy past events could easily lead to a vicious cycle – unhappy present feelings reinforced by recalling unhappy past events. reinforcing present unhappiness making easier the recall of more unhappy past events and coloring the memories of the past by making them seem even gloomier. All humans have regrets, this is not a phenomenon that only a subset of humans have.
3. Beliefs that are “untrue”. Who decides which beliefs are untrue and where is the peer reviewed published science on this?
4. Inability to cope with current conditions. This sounds like a catch-all explanation – as do #2 & #3.
The question that the people who are employed by (or investors in) any facility that claims to “treat” “drug and alcohol dependency” won’t ever ask is “what if ‘dependency’ on alcohol/drugs is just a garbage-pail term for a collection of behaviors that humans can engage in whether or not they regularly consume alcohol &/or drugs?”
Because if such a phenomenon is taken as a given, and doesn’t need to be proven to exist, jobs and dividends are secure. – and health insurance pays the bills.
If there is no firm divide between who suffers “dependency on drugs and alcohol”, then any human in America is a potential customer.
My favorite is “Beliefs that are untrue.” How about ‘addiction is a disease’, “I’m a drug addict”, “I’m an alcoholic”.
The cult will crumble if starved of new blood. How to achieve this? Criticize the professionals who promote it (there are fewer and fewer). (Sites like rehabs.com, thefix, and substance.) Warn the newcomer about the dangers of AA (bullying, brainwashing, suicide). I agree addiction isn’t a disease, but these people aren’t impressed by logic and science. In fact, that is how they define themselves.
What BS…12 step meetings have helped thousands..GET A LIFE….A HOLE
12 step meetings have helped thousands to kill millions.
http://addictionmyth.com/aa-has-killed-millions/
Ahole, huh ? Yeah, you sound really recovered. How come AA members talk about god and spirituality in meetings, then spew their evil and hate on forums? I’ve seen this time and again.
Probably because there’s no actual evidence (published, peer reviewed studies) to show that alcoholism &/or addiction is a disease and that rewriting one’s life story to match the AA template is a viable treatment – so they’re stuck with using the disreputable rhetorical techniques of ad hominem attacks, name calling and just loudly demanding that the entire country believe in their made up disease and their made up faith healing cure (loudness and demands as techniques to distract from the complete lack of facts for them to use to support their views)
I don’t talk about god most time I believe he has a sick discussing sence of humour, and I’ve never claimed to be spiritual I do believe in nature as my higher power and I also understand that I’m human and as such will never believe in the god of your bible
Whoever you are that has written this you are truly a sad desperate lonely depressed anxious hurt and pitiful person.. you have always been the victim in your life…probably bullied…neglected as a child…abused…disregarded by your peers… you are easily misunderstood… You are lost spiritually and have worked diligently to find your spiritual core and to no avail… i will pray for you … for your ignorance to cease from your being… for an end to the affliction that remains manifest in your life… for you to find a sense of truth and enlightenment on the plateau of your spiritual life …..that you may find a place inside where you are truly at peace with yourself and content with your environment… you are truly a sick person on various levels of your being… i mourn inside for you and all who find themselves as lost as you are… I wish everything that is well may come into your presence that you may find hope and direction and the attention that you so outwardly seek…. I am 24 years old and i have my whole life ahead of me to reach outward towards others understanding their pain and with empathy and patience help them fight their afflictions… thanks to this thing which you without true understanding call a cult…this abomination you have written will destroy more life than the love that i have been shown and will give freely to others… I hold inside a passion strong for you and the help you need… GOD BLESS -Mat D.-
“abomination” – thanks I take that as a compliment. Say buh-bye to your drinking club. 🙂
We aren’t going anywhere Satan! !
You know you’re doing something right when the satanists call you Satan. 🙂
thank you for your comments. i have been in AA FOR 39 YEARS AND HAVE NOT HAD A DRINK …………. it is certainly not a cult because we have no leaders, AAPEOPLE ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND I STILL NEED PEOPLE, thanks again nancy b.
Pardon me, but you sound a very sick judgmental nut job. You AA ers are all alike, you come to forums, shit all over everyone who doesn’t believe your bullshit, then you pray for them. Just like old southern preachers. I recently flat out quit AA after reading the internet evil that is expressed by so called recovering alcoholics. The evil and cruelty you had when drinking continues into sobriety. Such twisted and warped hypocrisy.
What he said!
After going to a few meetings (about 6000 at last count) I am happy to say I am in a spot today where it’s ok for you to have your opinion without me feeling a need to change it nor do I allow your ideas threaten a way of life that works for me today. I am not a book memorizer nor, but I love that statement to the affect of the one thing that will keep a man in everlasting ignorance is contempt prior to investigation. I do have one question that the BB, AA, the Bible, nor church has yet answered. Why in the world would God create more horses asses than he created horses???? and never forget rule 62!
Absaloutly!
Passages Malibu Ive been wanting to address you for years, Im glad you posted! Your ideals rob money from desperate families and kill people! How many indigent patients do you treat per year? My guess is ZERO.
CROCK OF B.S.!!
Love it Don 1982!! I’ll keep coming back! This jackass obviously is one fry short of a Happy Meal!
The recovery program of AA and 12 steps is the bace for 100`s to recovery from all thing. But only if you have the will and corage to change!
AddictionMyth is a sick person. Please forgive this person because they are uninformed and have a closed mind. We in AA don’t try to convince anyone of anything. Don’t believe what AddictionMyth has written because it is not true. If you suffer from alcoholism please attend an AA meeting with and open mind and willingness and honesty. Research for your self. Several books on AA are Dr. Bob and the good old timers, Pass it on, and AA comes of age. They will give you the history of AA and the success rate for those who really work at their own recovery.
Lol. Meetings a bit sparse lately?
I get who you are . . .just a guy with his own uneducated thoughts . . .and a person who never really was an alcoholic . . .just a strange human . . .without real life expierence . . .your not married . . . Never had a girl . . .dont like kids . . .and have no friends who respect you !
You are a very common guy . . and uneducated !
I resemble that remark!
So people should have an open mind about AA and a closed mind about anyone who questions AA?
Excellent !
This article is deadly! AA is the one proven treatment to arrest alcoholism. The author should be ashamed.
AA is not the one proven treatment. It is the one thing that did NOT work for me. I am happy to say that I have been sober for a little over 2 years now WITHOUT AA!
I’ve worked with alcoholics and drug addicts for 10 years and the ones that have quit successfully, are the ones that simply grew up and realized their lives would never get better if they didn’t quit. To brainwash a 17 year old that he is defected, and he will always be an addict/alcoholic is setting him up for failure. If AA is so great, why does is there so much addiction nowadays? Sure, some are successful, but the majority aren’t and they continue getting arrested and making money for law enforcement, rehab centers, etc…..it’s sad that so many have fallen prey to this diabolical conspiracy.
If it works why knock it dummy!
your comments and or blog are anything but the truth, you seem self centered and childish. What high price, AA has never asked for a thing, it manages own it’s own,”a not for profit” in it’s truest form. Your small essay seems to be written by a person who ‘got it’ and then could not keep it. No one in AA has ever asked me for a thing, only their time and it is a program of attraction not promotion or recruitment.
One other thing the use of words lets start with the word ‘cult’, please use it in it’s correct meaning. You may notice AA does not fit. If you don’t stay sober that’s your deal, no one is going to come after you to join. AA is a fellowship of men and women, who will help each other if asked. not a cult.
With 30
The creator of this Blog has been hurt or maybe she has just been “:dised “by someone in AA and is having a hard time geting over it ! she is lucky she can’t be forced into the rooms
if you been hurt or disrespected in AA just walk away unless you really have anything else to do have the time and need to keep chewing on old wounds this I don’t I got to go!
Brian
Bless you !
Awesome retort from an aa member who understands what we do. Well said.
Alcoholics Anonymous was identified as a cult by two sociologists that infiltrated its meetings in 1984.
Alexander, F., Rollins, M. “Alcohoics Anonymous: The Unseen Cult” . California Sociologist, Vol.7(no.l): 33-48, 1984
http://www.morerevealed.com/archives/aa–the-unseen-cult–california-sociologist-1984.pdf
Cool – can’t wait to read it!